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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 11:25 am    Post subject: Smarty powered sites <=> Google content indexing Reply with quote

Hello,

I have to develop a site for a company and want to use Smarty for the template framework and stuff.
However the company's boss is asking how well web spiders like google, yahoo, lycos, ... can index the contents presented by Smarty and how google's natural pageranking algorithm is regarding Smarty's HTML output.

Since I haven't found any hints in the FAQ / Q&A on this site perhaps someone in here can help me. What I need is basically this:

- Can all major search engines index the content of a Smarty driven site?
- How well can they do it?
- Are there major issues somewhere concerning indexing? Perhaps some of you were already asked this question.
- Is there anything I'll have to pay particular attention to?

Thanks for your help and efforts. Very Happy

Chris
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Enquest
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think its a bit of odd question.

Search engine don't look add the smarty code nor add the php code. Just the display code. And thats HTML PhP is only a HTML parser and Smarty is a very Cool help to make things easy!

So all your code is exe. outside the scope of search engines and you have control over how people see the XHTML code.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AFAIK: the HTML code is generated on-the-fly from the DB when a visitor comes to the website. Since - AFAIK - google and other search engines don't trigger a DB query and interpret the resulting content how can the generated HTML be "seen" by the spiders and thereby be indexed?!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They do trigger the database.
They simple follow links. Thats the same way as if a person would look at your site. They follow links by automaticaly clicking on it.
Unless you have a very special way to make links engines cannot see...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ Enquest: do u know a Smarty powered site that has been around for some time so I can search @ google for / in it?! Is the official Smarty site Smarty-powered?!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I don't think you can easaly find that.

But I'm quete sure that smarty.php.net does is made with smarty. Else look at showcase on this forum
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Making your site seach engine friendly has much more to do with how you structure your URLs than with how you format your output.

I suggest you look at the May issue of PHP|Architect
http://www.phparch.com/issuedata/2003/may/

and read the article:
The Great Deception—Making your site search-engine friendly with Apache's mod_rewrite and a few other dirty tricks
Welcome to a place of darkness, danger and unrelenting pressure: the world of search engines! Marco Tabini digs deep into the dark world of spiders and other crawlers in an attempt to discover how to make your web site more search-engine friendly through the use of a few simple (and totally legal) tricks.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

try to search with google, yahoo or lycos for my forum site (built with smarty) with the following query:
"forum studentidemocratici"
the firs result is a post on the forum
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@enquest: I'd have to check again but I don't think that the smarty.php.net site actually uses Smarty but instead uses the PHP.net site code.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2003 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sweatje wrote:
Making your site seach engine friendly has much more to do with how you structure your URLs than with how you format your output.

I suggest you look at the May issue of PHP|Architect
http://www.phparch.com/issuedata/2003/may/

and read the article:
The Great Deception—Making your site search-engine friendly with Apache's mod_rewrite and a few other dirty tricks
Welcome to a place of darkness, danger and unrelenting pressure: the world of search engines! Marco Tabini digs deep into the dark world of spiders and other crawlers in an attempt to discover how to make your web site more search-engine friendly through the use of a few simple (and totally legal) tricks.


Thx for the hint - I will try to get it here...

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