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Hani
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 Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 6:52 pm Post subject: JSP Smarty |
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I was wondering if anyone has ported Smarty to Java to get it to work with JSP files.
Are there any technical obstacles to this.
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boots
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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I haven't heard of such a project. For one thing, does JSP have a PHP execution container? It would need one for compatability since templates can include PHP code directly.
Smarty is conceptually tied to PHP -- I THINK that a port would really imply porting the concept as opposed to the actual engine.
On the otherhand, Smarty's parsing is all regex based, so that should be readily portable.
Why bother with Smarty, though, when you have Struts and Jakarta and all those other Java-Centric options?? |
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sweatje
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2003 3:46 am Post subject: |
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| boots wrote: | | Why bother with Smarty, though, when you have Struts and Jakarta and all those other Java-Centric options?? |
Not to be persnickety, but Struts is an MVC framework, and Smarty is more the equivalent of Views in the MVC framework, so the Java world uses JSP pages with Tag Libraries (whatever they are, I only read enough to know the buzzword, never implemented anything  )
Syntax compatability (less the {php} ) might be interesting for a shop that wanted to do quick prototypes with PHP, and move more solid apps onto java.
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Hani
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2003 3:58 am Post subject: |
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JSP templates that I have seen so far are much like many of the other PHP template engines. Smarty does so much more. I particularly like the
way it handles template compilation.
Apart from the PhP tag (which could be replaced by a JSP tag) does any
one know of any technical difficulties that I may encounter (I am not
familiar with the internal workings of Smarty).
** Actually I would just ignore any language specific tags!
Also (as mentioned in the previous post) having multiple flavors of
Smarty gives you more flexibility. While I am at it, does anyone know
anything about ASP and would a similar thing also be possible with it?
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boots
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2003 5:15 am Post subject: |
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| sweatje wrote: | | Not to be persnickety, but Struts is an MVC framework, and Smarty is more the equivalent of Views in the MVC framework |
You're right  ! I was thinking of the Velocity template engine (another subproject of Jakarta at project Apache) and again you are right, using Velocity would kind of imply not using JSP -- sorry about that. Then again, I AM asking: why not use Velocity and some existing MVC style framework?
Still, I'm not sure what a compiling template engine would mean in Java. Is it possible to generate .java -> .class files and load them at runtime?
It did get me to think that a JavaScript port of Smarty would be interesting 
AFAIK, ASP.net templates already has a builtin compilation system (and it compiles down to byte-code). |
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sweatje
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2003 10:54 am Post subject: |
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There was an interesting thread about that over in the Sitepoint forums:
Parsing ASP.NET templates with PHP
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