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andreas
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2003 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think your script is the best way for my application. What I do not know yet is, if I should use your tags(##...) , or if it is better to use something like {translate string="blablabla"} or {translate}blablabla{/translate}, what do you think about using this? Why did you create these "tags"?
What about using a variable ($username) somewhere in a sentence if I want to use your script?
What do you think of saving the data as XML, not flat-files as you do?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2003 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally don't like to have placeholders for text stored in seperate files. I usually do it directly in the templates by using sth like
{if ($_SESSION.language == "EN")}English{elseif ($_SESSION.language == "DE")}Deutsch{/if}
I know that this is not the most comfortable way to extend templates with another language, but I just can't help myself on hating this language-file stuff...
I am taking this approach, too, because you often don't have to create content in different language, but, for example, have different date formatting methods:
{if ($_SESSION.language == "EN")}{$timestamp|date_format:"%B %d %Y, %H:%M"}{elseif ($_SESSION.language == "DE")}{$timestamp|date_format:"%d. %m. %Y, %H:%M"}{/if}
or other things... for example, many languages (german, french, ...) seperate decimal places using a comma: 17,24... but in english, you use a period: 17.24...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2003 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats why you use the international standard of using a space like 75 934 also this seems to be our first multipage thread w00t Smile
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andreas
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2003 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right, date-format is the next problem. IN PHP itself it would be no problem, I can define the date-formate somewhere globally, as

Code:
if($lang="en") {
    $format = "d.m.y";
}

date($format,$timestamp);

date($format,$timestamp2);

date($format);

....



But how could I do this in smarty?
Is there a possibility to use a variable $format as above?

Same problem with using number_format().

Perhaps I should use own date and number-Format functions which use number_format / date...?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2003 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

please see my posting on this page again...
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2003 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have seen it, but I don't want to have things like that in my(each) template! I would like to say from PHP which date-format should be used, and in Smarty only display date without ifs and own formating.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2003 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you could create a config file, sth like date_format.conf like this:
Code:

[en]
format = "%Y-%m-%d"
[de]
format = "%d.%m.%y"

then, in your template:
Code:

{config_load file="date_format.conf" section=$language}

and then do
Code:

{$timestamp|date_format:$smarty.config.format}

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2003 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is it possible to load a config-file from PHP? Before loading the template? Or "assign" it to the template?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2003 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

andreas wrote:
is it possible to load a config-file from PHP? Before loading the template? Or "assign" it to the template?


Yes, with $smarty->config_load()

http://smarty.php.net/manual/en/api.config.load.php
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2003 6:51 pm    Post subject: Recomandation!!!!! Reply with quote

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
This XML version is just exelent! I very much recomend it!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2003 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as your PHP has XML support I would recommend using XML style files also. But if your webspace provider doesn't provide DOMXML you will get problems Wink Using phpDOM or phpXML (don't know how it's called) you'll get serious speed problems.
That's the reason why my script uses plain text files.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2003 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That requires built in expat support which is enable per default not domxml
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2003 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Embarassed you got the point ...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2003 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@andre: as I can install whatever I want to have, would you recommend me to use the XML-soluten as described above, or would you change your script and change the usage of flat-files to usage of xml-files?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
as I can install whatever I want to have, would you recommend me to use the XML-soluten as described above, or would you change your script and change the usage of flat-files to usage of xml-files?


Laughing Do you expect me to answer my own script is sh*t? Wink
Seriously I would now prefer XML for storing the data but it's not really needed in the case of my script. The language files are INI style and very simple to understand and to parse. Using XML here would give no real advantage. If you really want the languages files in XML format it would be no problem to alter my script in a few minutes.

So it's your decision what style of templates you prefer.
Code:

  {tanslate id="hello"} {$username}

Code:

  {translate u=$username}Hello %u{/translate}

Code:

  ##hello## {$username}
  {foo bar="##hello## `$username`"}


All approaches have their advantages and disadvantages. My intention was to make translations as easy to maintain as possible. Thats why I am using separate files which you can give to friends or paid translators to get different language support. There's no need to give your whole project away if you need another language.

The style of the language tags (##hello##) can be varied by changing my script so perhaps you want to use %%hello%% or just anything else.

Hope that helps,
André
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